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افتراضي The first creature

Al-Shaikh Muhammad Naser Ad-Deen Al-Albani in the chain of authentic hadith -
hadith no.(133): "The first thing that Allah created was the pen, and He ordered
it to write everything that will be."
In that hadith there is an indication for replying what people say nowadays, until
it became a creed that is deeply rooted in the hearts of many of them, and that
is; An-Noor Al-Muhammady (referring to Muhammad peace be upon him) is the
first thing that Allah - Exalted be He- created, and that is based upon no truth
what so ever. And the Hadith traced back to Abd Al-Razzak is of unknown chain
of narrators, and maybe we will talk about it in details in the weak aheedth
insha'Allah (if Allah wills).
And in it (the hadith) there is an answer for those who say that the Throne is
the first creation, and there is no evidence to support their view from the
prophetic sayings, But those who said so (like Ibn Taymiyyah), said it based on
their own diligence and conclusions, so taking this hadith and others with the
same meaning is more accurate, because it is an evidence in the matter, and
there is no diligence if there was an evidence; as it is well known.
And interpreting it by that the pen is the first creation after the Throne is
wrong, because that is only valid if there was a clear evidence that proves that
the throne is the first of All creations, and among which is the pen, but in our
case - where there is no such evidence- then we cannot interpret it in this way.
And it also is a reply for those who say that there isn't a beginning for events,
and that there is no creature except that there is a creature before it, and so
on, till what has no beginning, so that it can never be said; that this is the first
creature. The Hadith we mentioned nullify this claim and states that the pen is
the first creature, and it is with no doubtfully unprecedented.
And Ibn Taymiyyah elongated in answering the philosophers; trying to proof that
events has no beginning, and he came up with things that the brain wonder while
reading it, and that is not accepted by the hearts, until his opponents accused
him that he says the creatures are old and there is not a beginning for it,




though he clearly states that; there is not a creature except that it is precedent
by Nothingness. Nevertheless he says, that all events are chained back to what
has no beginning, As also is said by him and others, that things are chained to
what has no ending! And that saying from him; is unaccepted, in fact it is
rejected based on this Hadith, And how much did we wish that he (Ibn Taymiyyah)
wouldn't have got in to this talk, because what he said is close to philosophy and
the science of talk that we have learned from him to stay away from it and be
careful, But Imam Malik was truthful when he said: "None of us except that has
been answered, except the owner of this tomb (peace be upon him)"



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افتراضي رد: The first creature

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#3

افتراضي رد: The first creature

رد: The first creature
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افتراضي رد: The first creature

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#5

افتراضي رد: The first creature

جزاكم الله الجنة (:
#6

افتراضي رد: The first creature

لا اله الا الله
#7

افتراضي رد: The first creature

جزاكي الله كل خير

ربنا يجعله ب ميزان حسناتك

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توقيع : ضــي القمــر
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افتراضي رد: The first creature

موضوع متعوب عليه
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افتراضي رد: The first creature

بارك الله فيك
وجعله في ميزان حسناتك

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افتراضي رد: The first creature

رد: The first creature

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